January 6th, 2010
There’s an interesting article by Brenda Sapino Jeffries in a recent Texas Lawyer, “Gardere Reduces First-Year Salaries and Billable Hours“. The Dallas-based, 275-lawyer firm, Gardere Wynne Sewell is cutting first-year salaries form $140,000 to $120,000 (about 14%) and first-year billable hours from 2000 to 1700 (15%). The rationale is that clients were starting to specify in engagement letters that no first-year lawyers could be assigned to the matter. The associates will also get about 300 hours of training:
“I just think we are getting more focused. You understand you have an investment in these people and they get the right type of training,” [managing partner Steve] Good says, noting that training will include classroom sessions and more opportunity for the first-year lawyers to observe trials, depositions and negotiating sessions.
The problem? Clients don’t want to pay for training:
[Stephen] Mims [Prescott Legal Search] says he has spoken to a number of general counsel who complain that many first-year associates are not prepared for the job when coming out of law school and would benefit from more training. Gardere’s plan addresses that client concern, he says.
Some have speculated that the economic downturn has accentuated the problems inherent in the traditional Big-Firm model of practice. We’ll need to see many more swallows before we can tell if it’s Spring in Capistrano.
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November 6th, 2009
If you are interested in legal education, you should add Renaissance Report: A Journal of Eucation in Transition to your list of resources. Their website describes the Renaissance Report as follows:
Law school education is in transition and tools are available for changing the legal education system to better prepare students for the practice of law.
The Legal Education Renaissance Report is an online Journal of Legal Education in Transition. It is a broad based, up-to-date resource of innovations in curriculum and teaching methods in law schools and K-12, college prep, undergraduate education, online learning, technology, and business training that can be applied to legal education.
The Editors are also interested in “your comments and education innovations”.
It has a separate category for law-school education posts.
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November 6th, 2009
Andrea A. Curcio (Georgia State) has a new article, Assessing Differently and Using Empirical Studies to see if it Makes a Difference: Can Law Schools do it Better?, 27 QUINNIPIAC L. REV. 899 (2009) (SSRN). Curcio argues that law schools–and law professors–need to start thinking not only about how we assess students, but also about how we assess our assessments:
This Article explores alternative law school assessment methods and suggests ways to engage in empirical study of alternative and existing assessments. In Part II, the Article provides some concrete suggestions for both incremental and larger changes to doctrinal class assessment practices with an eye toward developing assessments that begin to desegregate legal analysis, practical skills, and professional identity. What is not explored explicitly, but what is implicit throughout, is that, because professors should not assess what they do not teach, examining and changing assessment methods necessarily involves reflection about teaching methodology and coverage.
The Article then moves from a discussion of changing teaching and assessment practices to a discussion of studying the impact of those changes. Because empirical studies can be a persuasive tool in laying the groundwork necessary to develop institutional support for a change in assessment practices, Part III seeks to de-mystify the empirical study process. Written for those without a social science background, it briefly discusses basic issues in study design, methodology, implementation, and interpretation, providing an overview of how to develop and design an empirical research study. Part IV suggests some potential empirical research assessment studies that can be performed on both alternative and existing law school assessment methods. Finally, the Article concludes by arguing that if law professors give their teaching and assessment work the same scholarly scrutiny given to other research interests, they may discover ways to help students become more effective lawyers, lessen student disengagement and create the potential for a more diverse bench and bar.
Id. at 903.
To borrow from Curtis Mayfield, “[p]eople get ready, there’s a train a comin’”. As Curcio suggests, we’re going to need more than faith.
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October 3rd, 2009
In Flat Demand and More Law Schools,I suggested that new law schools were more likely to compete with U.S. NewsTier 3 and Tier 4 schools (especially the latter). To illustrate that, lets look at the 27 schools accredited after 1988. Only two of the schools (Seattle and UNLV) were ranked in Tier 2, and only three of the schools (Chapman, Florida International and Quinnipiac) were ranked in Tier 3. The remaining schools were ranked in Tier 4 (10 Schools) or were not rated by U.S. News (12 schools).

The chart shows the distribution of the LSAT 25th percentiles for the Fall 2008 entering classes, as shown in the 2010 Official Guide. The 25th percentile for all ABA-approved law schools (other than the three in Puerto Rico) was 151. Over 74% of the post-1988 law schools (19 out of 27) had entering classes with an LSAT 25th percentile of 151 or lower.
To be sure, UC-Irvine will be a much stronger law school. Perhaps U. North Texas in Dallas will also do well. Bothhave a lot of money being put into them, which is always good. But UNT-Dallas is bound to hurt Texas Wesleyan in the other half of the Dallas- Ft. Worth metroplex.
Gary Rosin
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Law-School Debt Loads
January 18th, 2010In her article, “Linking Debt and Income,” Inside Higher Ed, January 18, 2010, Jennifer Epstein reports that the U.S. Department of Education recently proposed that vocational and for-profit colleges meet minimum standards for debt-to-income ratios for recent graduates. The average debt repayment could be no more than eight percent (8%) of expected earnings in the field. The presumptive expected earnings would be the 25th percentile of incomes in the field for which they had been trained.
How would that work for law schools? Going to law school is expensive, and often financed with debt. The 2009 Survey Results of the Law School Survey of Student Engagement tells us that 29% of the students surveyed expected to graduate with law-school related debt of at least $120,000. The following chart from page 14 of the 2009 Annual Survey of law students shows the law-school debt levels expected by current law students.
According to the May 2008 Occupational Employment and Wage Estimates of the Bureau of Labor Statistics (National Cross-Industry Estimates [.zip file]) the 25th percentile of annual income for lawyers was just under $75,000. That would make the maximum annual payment just under $6,000. Assuming a modest ten percent (10%) interest rate,* the maximum average school debt would be just over $45,000.
But over two-thirds of students surveyed in 2009 by LSSSE expect to graduate with law school debt of $60,000 or higher. According to Epstein, schools that don’t meet the eight percent (8%) of presumptive earnings could show
The following chart from the National Association of Law Placement shows the distribution of salaries of the Class of 2008:
Class of 2008, Distribution of Salaries (NALP)
The overall median of $72,000 is just under the May 2008 25th percentile of lawyer salaries ($75,000), so there is no wiggle room there.
Should law schools start reporting salary and debt-load information for its recent graduates?
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*Interest rates on guaranteed student loans in repayment are now about 2.5%. I’ll have to check on the current average for non-guarnateed loans. In event, current interest rates are abnormally low.
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